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Westminster Spelæological Group

Cave Exploration and Investigation

President: Toby Clark esq.

Newsletter No. 2003/2 April 2003

This newsletter is published for the dissemination of information and is copyright ©WSG 2003. Articles are the copyright of the respective authors. If you wish to reproduce any part, please include the source. Opinion expressed is that of the author and not necessarily that of the WSG.

Headquarters - Caerllwyn Cottage, Halt Road, Rhigos, ABERDARE. CF44 9UW Tel:01685 811080 Website: http://www.wsg.org.uk

The Club meets on first and third Tuesday of the month at: Ship & Shovell bar, Craven Passage WC2. (Off Villiers Street under Charring Cross station) Normally from 7:45pm onwards.

Box Stone Mines - Wiltshire. Photo: Steve Weston).   [Click to enlarge]. Left: - Box Stone Mines - Combined WSG/ICCC meet. Photo - Steve Weston. (Click to enlarge in new window).

Editorial: This newsletter is, of course, later than planned in order to include some stuff from the AGM. There's also a lot of stuff from Toby Clark about the 18th hole and the upper Hepste. If you've stuff you'd like to see in the newsletter, let me have it! Cheers, Graham.

The caving calendar is on the main WSG website. Follow 'Club Meets' and 'Online Diary'. Members can access further information from the 'Members Only' part of the website. Follow 'Diary Dates' to check it out or 'Club Diary' to make changes/bookings for events.

Contact mail addresses for the club officers can be found on the main website under 'Contacts'.

The cottage can be booked on line ... click 'Cottage' then click 'Book Cottage'. There is also a multimap button to locate Caerllwyn.

 

 

 

Index to content:

Club News

Virtual Caving

Chairman's Words

Library Additions

Vercor 2003

Cuba 2004

Tunnel Cave - Fixed Aids

News from Abroad

The Virtual Logbook

Hidden Earth 2003

Articles

Pwll Pindar - Opening a second Front to the PMMS. - Toby Clark.

An Essay from one of Sarah's Daughters

A Bit More on LED's For Caving Lamps - Graham Adcock.

Air movement - Pwll Pindar boulder choke. - Toby Clark.

Pant Mawr Master System - a comparison with OFD. Toby Clark.

Last Gasp

 

 

Club News.

Martin McGowan has moved and now resides at Flat 6, Newnum House, 2 Shenfield Rd, Brentwood. His contact details are on the website.

Toby Clark is looking for good pictures of Pwll Pindar for a 'Descent' article.

Well done to Sarah Payne who recently completed the WBCRT Advanced First Aid course and thoroughly recommends it. Sarah also wishes to point out that there are forms to be filled out by members to let WBCRT know about out individual commitment to cave rescue and knowledge of the welsh systems. Sarah has suggested we would all benefit from brushing up on first aid skills and for homework, read the article in the current 'Descent' about hypothermia. Pauline and BrucePauline and Bruce (click to enlarge).

Court Circular… Congratulations to Tim and Pauline Barter on the birth of Bruce Adam Barter born 9th March 2003. Bruce attended his first AGM this year…The Grow-a Caver scheme continues…

News from the Hoopers…

Dear all, just wanted to say hi and let you know that things up here in the Lakes couldn't be any better! My new job with Go Ape! (I'm a high ropes/outdoor ed instructor) is more than I could ever have hoped for! Also wanted to let you know that I don't really use e-mail anymore so if you want to get in touch could you either phone me on 07812 995 653 or write to me at 40 Limethwaite Road, Windermere, Cumbria, LA23 2BQ. Sorry to be a traditionalist but I prefer using good old Royal Mail. Hope you're all having as much fun as I am. Adi.

And from James… Greetings from Siberia (Irkutsk)! After a few days in Moscow, I spent three days and four nights on the train, arriving here 3 days ago. The last three days have been spent walking around (and on!) the frozen Lake Baikal (60km south east from here). (I stayed with a Russian family, enjoying the food, vodka, traditional sauna etc.) I've now got my train ticket to Ulaan Baatar in Mongolia, leaving this evening for another relaxing 36 hours on the train. All's well - no problems at all (unless you count hangovers, sore feet etc). Hope the AGM was a good craic, and that lots of decent caving and drinking got done, See you when I see you, James.

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From Duncan Minty… I met up with an old member of WSG recently, under circumstances, the coincidence of which is pretty amazing. I was running in one of the main orienteering events of the year recently and in the last third of my course, I noticed this older guy running what seemed to be virtually the same course as me, and making some interesting navigational choices. So I kept a half eye on him and over the remaining third of the course, I trailed him (he was a fast runner) until the last control, when he made an error and I didn't, so I got to the finish 30 seconds ahead of him. We compared routes and set off to the download tent (to download our stage times from the electronic widget we carry). At the download tent they confirm your name and when I heard his, I thought, hmmm, that his name and he's in such and such a club, which means he's from the Basingstoke area, so I wonder if he's that same person who was secretary of WSG about 40 years ago. Anyway, as it turned out, it was, Andy McGregor, ex WSG and ex BEC, an entirely non-caver now and a pretty good orienteer. To be running on the same day, on the same course, at roughly the same time, using roughly the same navigation choices and finishing at roughly the same time, and to find out what the others' names were, is, well lets say, I don't expect it to happen again. Adios, Doooncano.

Vercor 2003 An update from the AGM. In the process of translating the French descriptions into English (I am using someone else's brain for this), so we can all know what we are getting into. The campsite is booked, thanks to Jerry, and now I need to know numbers. So if you are interested email me and I will add your name to the Vercor 2003 trip communication list and then I will get Phil to set up a user group on the website so any arranging of transport can be co-ordinated.

Cuba 2004 Several people have expressed interest in going back to Cuba, and I don't mind organising it again. The plan would be for two weeks around Easter 2004, which is the 11th April, so the rough dates will be 3rd April to 24th April. I know this is more than two weeks but I do not know my own holiday dates yet for next year, so that why I am being vague about the date. The outlining plan would be to visit Sumidero del Hoyo de la Fruta discovered by the Spanish in 2001, 100m of big passage to a drop that has not been pushed. Another Spanish lead is Sima de la Novilla. The entrance to this cave is somewhere up in the mogote, about half-way along a line drawn between the end points of Cueva Chiquita and Cueva Grande. The cost should be in the region of £1000, but depends on the cost of the flight from 500ish to 600ish the last time I checked the price of a flight to Havana at www.opodo.co.uk. I know it seems a long time to next Easter but by the end of the Summer we will have to start putting some firm numbers together in order to give the Martel Group a chance to organise the paperwork.

The World's deepest cave is once again in France! A team of four Lyons and Marseilles cavers have surpassed the world depth record in the pit of Mirolda, on the commune of Samoëns (Haute-Savoie), at -1,733 m below the entrance. The preceding record at -1,710m. had been in Arabika, Georgia since Jan 2001. The cavers, Daniel Colliard and Carlos Placido from Lyon, along with Pascal Bourdarie and the diver Michel Philips from Marseilles, took advantage of a week of cold weather, reducing the risk of flooding. Source: AFP. (I've précised the text from the full article. Click here for the full text.- Ed)

Dangerous Fixed Aid The fixed aid at the second cascade in Tunnel Cave is starting to show serious signs of old age. The wire across to the balcony at the far end is fraying. I would also pack a rope for the first cascade as there is no wire at present for the descent despite what the guidebook says. All together you need about 40m of rope, three krabs, and a sling. South Wales know about it as another caver form SWCC left them a note asking for the aid to be replaced ASAP.

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Collapse on the Sarn Helen. I was told by Toby from SWCC that there had been a collapse on the Sarn Helen, just down from where we park for the Pant Mawr Pot and heading back down towards Blaen Nedd Isaf Farm. Inspected this hole with Toby the Elder and it shows signs of potential.

Digging the 18th. Pete Jurd, Pete Wynn, Toby the Elder and I spend a day digging. The rotten limestone and the soil behind the shuttering have been removed and the bottom of the dig is now big enough for two people to work in and it is looking good. Martin McGowan.

From Toby Clark…..I revisited the sites on the upper Hepste to get some more air movement data. The resurgence was outdraughting on the first visit when the PB was falling and was indraughting on the second visit when the BP was rising. Air temperatures were well above cave temperature on both occasions. The conclusion is that the resurgence cave is closed and breathing. Two parallel collapse features up on the ridge were both outdraughting strongly (.5m/s) on both occasions. The conclusion is that these are lower entrances to an open system. Also we visited the 18th Hole and removed about 50 buckets of spoil, creating a much more workable site. (Pete Wynn, Pete Jurd, Martin McGowan). Another session should begin to reveal interesting things! Shoring will be necessary. All materials, timber, scaffolding and clips are on site but diggers will need the pulley block (in tackle shed) and a scaffolding spanner. Explosives are not likely to be needed. The 18th was faintly draughting but no direction proved. The 18th Hole adit was outdraughting at .1m/s. As the BP was rising at the time, it was showing anomalous behaviour as has previously been reported. This was surprising because it has been very dry for some while, apart from a brief shower the previous evening. The implication is that 'reversion', i.e. to normal closed and breathing behaviour only occurs when the water table is exceptionally low (in July/August). Toby.

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Hidden Earth 2003 31st October to 2nd November - Skipton, North Yorkshire.

This year the annual caving conference and weekend convention will be in Skipton at Aireville School, and will feature the usual field trips, trade and club stands, competitions, talks, discussion groups, entertainment etc. Skipton is a pleasant market town, easy to get to, with plenty of B&Bs and campsites nearby, not forgetting, of course, the Yorkshire Dales national park, with caving and walking available. See http://www.hidden-earth.org.uk/ although most of the relevant information will not be posted to that web site until later in the spring.

For those based in and around London that don't have transport, can't get a lift, or fancy an alternative method of getting to Swales… As from April 28th, Airwales are offering three flights a day (Monday to Friday) from London City Airport to Cardiff & Swansea. Single fares start @ £19 single inc. taxes & airport charges. http://www.airwales.co.uk/ Cheers, Fumpa

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Virtual Caving - (Let your fingers do the walking, crawling, grunting etc.).

http://www.speluncamundi.com/dev/ - French caving news - (in French).

http://freespace.virgin.net/t.audsley/ferret.htm - The Thrupe Lane Swallet Diggers site.

http://www.southwalesinfocus.com/ Some good pix of the cottage locality.

http://draftlight.net/lifeonaline/ An on-line Book about SRT/Rescue

http://www.darencilau.co.uk/ Set up by Tim Morgan.

A couple of new caving discussion forums -

uk caving at http://www.ukcaving.com/board/index.php

Speleomania, (from a well known Hertfordshire 'erb) http://www.speleomania.com/

If you come across an interesting site, send me the URL and I'll post it here. Ed.

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Chairman's Comments - Jerry Complin - Hon. Chairman. All those who attended at the AGM will no doubt agree that it was a spectacular success and all praise on Jeanette and Andy for organising the bash. The dinner, dance and the location all made the event extremely memorable. The club was also able to move forward with the cottage after a debate over the most appropriate way to address the closing order and the President has started this off by meeting the local Environmental Health Officer. With this initial report the committee and trustees will be working together to see how we can overcome the three failings identified by the EHO, namely outside toilets, no segregation in the bunkroom, and no food cupboards. At the AGM the club also gave itself a new constitution allowing for temporary membership to appease the insurers. These changes take place at a time of structural changes within British caving when, as I understand it, all cavers will be insured individually whether through a club or directly with the NCA or whichever august institution will replace BCRA. With all these administrative changes and developments let everyone not lose sight of our raison d'être: caving! Enjoy whatever and wherever you go and do.

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This year's AGM and annual dinner was held at the splendiferous Craig-y-Nos Castle, just downAdcock expounds at the AGMmAdcock expounds - (click to enlarge). the road from Day-yr-Ogof. The AGM passed off more smoothly than I think anyone dared to hope Jerry's re-work of the constitution got the seal of approval. On the cottage front, we voted to 'get the EHO in'. He visited on 14th April and Toby's brief primer is reproduced below. Thanks to our president Toby for acting as group representative in this matter.

Thanks to Jeanette (once again!) for organising the bash (assisted in various ways by Mark, Ian and Andy) - a medieval banquet (with a few wenches and serfs suitably dressed) followed by vigorous expenditure of energy in WSG fashion to the 'Big Beat Boogie band'. There are various photos on the website courtesy of Phil.

Toby's perspective...

"Just to give you a quick outline of the EHO's visit. His name is Ian Lester; he is a friendly, pleasant sort of person and was very sympathetic to our situation. He says that three things fail to meet the fitness standard (to which he has to work) and these are outside toilets, no segregation in the bunkroom, no food cupboard(s) but we do use food boxes, which is good. The toilets are the cruncher, basically. We can't really do anything about the situation without building the extension or some variant of it. But, he appreciated the work we have put in to the cottage and he will enter a favourable report on file for us. As far as he is concerned, the order can lie on file until we decide what to do and he is aware that we cannot currently fund the extension. So while the closing order does not go away, it is neutralised. He was quite taken with Troy, the guardian of the cottage! From the insurance point of view, the stated reasons for unfitness do not present a risk and we can relax about that. So basically, we can get on with life and make our decisions as we see fit. He would like to be kept informed and will help with advice as we may need it. So it isn't 'make your mind up time' as Brian would put it. We can continue to ruminate. Chow, Toby".

A slightly later perspective from Martin McGowan..... (not in the original newsletter as it arrived too late - Ed).

As was pointed out by the EHO he said that the property was "horses for courses" as the hut is not really a domestic dwelling he is happy that the building generally suits the present purpose that we are using it for which is a bunkhouse. He pointed out in the kitchen that there was no food storage, although I pointed to my food box and said that we tend to use these over a weekend. He seemed reasonably okay with this although, I think having some more permanent arrangement, maybe a series of mouseproof storage units (ammo boxes for example) kept under the pots and pans would be better. He did not look too carefully at the pots and pans, which was a good thing as they had had some mouse droppings on them before we gave the place the once over to clean it up for him. Upstairs he was happy that there was plenty of light, a fire exit (although he is not fire officer), the roof seemed sound and waterproof, and he did not comment on the stairs. He did mention that the alpine style bunk was not acceptable as there was no personal space between each bed. Down stairs in the living room the only question he asked was about the floor, and if water ever came up through the floor, which we answered that we could never remember this happening, although we did admitted it would be come mucky with people tramping in and out of the living room in Winter. Outside he was happy that the showers and toilets are functional and clean, and that again because we are only down at weekends it is acceptable to have such simple amenities. Unfortunately they are outside the main building so need to be brought inside it. How we bring them in depends on how many we want to be able to stay at the hut, but the guidelines for a bunkhouse say we need 1 toilet, shower and washand basin per 4 people staying and that the toilet is separate form the showers. It is on this question of the toilets being outside on which he could not lift the closure order. He said the place was greatly improved and well looked after, acceptable for weekend use and that he was happy with our present usage of the hut as it obvious that we were working towards the removal of the closure order and the problems highlighted by it.

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Articles.

Pwll Pindar - opening a 'second front' to the Pant Mawr Master System. Toby Clark.

Editor's note: Some of the diagrams in the following article are unclear. I will put higher resolution versions up when I can get them. If you require a high res version, please mail me - Ed.

Friday 17th Jan 2003, Dave Farey and me ported the drill, explosives and digging tools to the terminal boulder choke at the Eastern end of Bishopsgate passage. A careful examination of any possible leads brought us to the furthest point about 25m into the choke. Entry to the choke is via a short squeeze on the right, entering a space between boulders, out of a hole between boulders climbing up and left past a decorated chamber (on the right of the hole) then up left and back right to a 3m crawl to the furthest point, where a narrow rift was visible about 1.5m down. It was noted that the roof of the choke slopes up at a shallow angle, and has maybe 4 steps upward in the roof. At the furthest point, the cave begins to descend. Access to the rift was prepared by drilling 3 x 1/2m shot holes into the floor, and two other boulders were drilled to about 12cm depth. It was noted that outdraughting was occurring (1600hrs).

Saturday 18th. A party of 5 (Fumpa, Sarah, Dougal, Martin Creavin and me). Returned to find the blasting had been successful. There was no noticeable odour of banger fumes. About .5m3 of rock was removed by passing stones from hand to hand and stacking them below the crawl. Within a short time Fumpa gained access to the rift to find a flat-out squeeze under a rock roof (but a mud floor) down at a shallow angle and back into the boulder choke which was met about 3m below in a space big enough to sit up in and turn around. A tiny trickle flows down the slope. The boulder choke here is heavily calcited up and the way on seems to be below two large boulders closing together into an impassable pinch (but which can be enlarged) with the stream bed a few cm below.

3 small boulders were drilled and blown up as a gesture to those who had ported in the kit. The dig is rather more committing now and the way on not wholly clear. The obvious approach is to take in a shallow drag sledge and haul out spoil which should be easy to remove and there is adequate stacking space. Once the chamber below has been enlarged into a decent workspace the way on should become apparent.

Throughout the operation, there was no impairment of air quality with 5 persons in quite a small space and it felt cool - this is an excellent indication that we are going somewhere, now following both air and water downwards!

This was the first time the drill had been used underground and everything worked perfectly.
Toby.

(Fumpa and I had a further look on 9th Feb. Saw a bat flying as we squeezed through into the chamber above the dig. We removed many shattered rocks until we were left with a pool of thick mud between two converging walls going downwards. A furgling pole sank 1.5m into the gloop. Rescued a frog on the way out… Ed).

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School Essay from one of Sarah's Daughters - (Author's name withheld on threat of a lynching - Ed).

Peak District Easter 2002 - Caving trip with Steve, Andy and Mum

I'm not scared of much. I'm scared of snakes and diseases, but I'm not scared of heights and I don't get claustrophobic. I suppose that's why I love caving so much. My Mum also loves caving. I guess it's in my genes. I first started caving with the scouts. I was eleven years old and my Mum started soon after that. Even though I started caving before my Mum, she is much better than I am. She goes caving most weekends where as I only go once a month if I am lucky. As I waddled across the field the scorching sun was shinning down on me - near boiling me alive, in my dry suit and my gynormous fleecy all-in-one suit. Even though I was sweltering, I was shaking but not with cold. I had been looking forward to this all weekend. As I approached the mouth of the cave I was absolutely terrified. I had to climb down a hole in the river with gushing water soaking my face and hair, my dry suit, thank goodness, keeps out most of the water. What followed had to have been one of the most exhilarating times of my life. I squeezed though vertical and horizontal gaps that couldn't have been more than two feet high or wide and I climbed and jumped over holes that if I fell down them it would probably resort in me breaking my neck. I also had to drag myself up waterfalls with torrents of icy water dragging me down. The scariest time was when I was clambering up a tiny waterfall and I got stuck and my Mum, who had also come down the cave, had to push me up causing me to badly scrape my shins. The bit I remember the most was, after spending four hours in almost pitch black darkness, I saw a spot of light and with my Mum right behind me we sprinted as fast as we could with about three feet of space around us to the exit of the cave. I hauled my exhausted body up the last two metres and was out! The blinding sun hurt my eye and although I had loved every minute of it. I was very relieved to be out!

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A bit more on LED lamps for caving. Graham Adcock.

The single elements of LED clusters you see in caving lamps either as 'replacement' pilot or main beams or as in the Speleo-Technics FX-LED type are run at about 30mA and absorb about 100mW. 7 or 14 LED clusters therefore draw about 210mA or 420mA respectively. The 'beam' relies on the LED lens as most of the light is thrown forward. In the FX-LED, the reflector undoubtedly helps 'collect' any remaining light but does little to focus it forward. Recent LED development, spurred on by their use in domestic lighting have produced 1 Watt (and reputedly 5 Watt) devices. Back in February, I got hold of a 'Lumileds' 1 Watt LED with a lens to focus the light forward and generate a beam. This beastie runs at 350mA max. I fitted it to an Oldham headset along with a 300mA linear regulator and ran it from my 2.2Ah / 3.6v helmet mounted battery. The light output is excellent and is easily enough to cave with - all for the same current drawn by a pilot bulb! I expect the lamp to run for 7 hours from this source, making it quite a respectable compact lighting source. The LED is available from RS Components - part number 449-1876ZD - at £11.79. (Bought singly, the small white LED's are £4 each). Ideally, the LED should be run from a current limited switching boost regulator for maximum efficiency and best use of the battery capacity - more later!

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Pant Mawr Master System - a comparison with OFD. Toby Clark.

A comparison of the estimated volume of the Pant Mawr Master System (and the component of it which lies beyond the Pwll Pindar boulder choke) with that of the OFD system is an interesting one. The main OFD streamway is about 3km long. A rough estimate of average passage size might be 5m wide x 10m high giving 150 000m3. That doesn't include the mazes of passages in OFDI or OFDII which could easily equal that so we could be looking at a 'ball park figure' of 300 000m3 or more.

On that basis the 30 500m3 (subject to an estimated +_ 30% error, mainly due to limitations in estimating the airflow rate) in Pwll Pindar gives a cave about 10% of the size; an order of magnitude smaller. However, the air moving through the rift is only a component of that moving through the boulder choke and out of the head of the 8m pitch in Bishopsgate Passage (estimated at 45 800m3) . Adding these together makes 75 300m3 and so about 25% of OFD. There could also be other outflows of air from vents to the surface beyond the boulder choke of which we are unaware (e.g. draughting rabbit holes were observed above the region of Rabbit Passage!).

The air movement through the boulder choke is only a component of the total outdraughting from Pwll Pindar, noted also at the bottom of the entrance shaft and at the Western end of Bishopsgate passage. Including these brings the total easily >100 000m3.

And there is more. It is reasonable to consider Pwll Pindar and the 18th Hole area as a single cave complex (they are 330m apart). Recently we have also shown that the 18th Hole itself is directly draughting, at least during dry summer conditions and an estimate of the volume lying beneath came to 138 000m3.

The adit from the 18th Hole is also known to draught but there is currently no acceptably accurate assessment of the volume. I suggest a tentative figure of 30 000m3 which is a minimum based on what observations we do have.

Adding all these together gives >268 000m3 and as a 'ball park' figure, it is at least of the same order of magnitude as OFD.

And there may be more! Only one measurement is available from the Organ Loft in Pant Mawr Pothole which was an indraught on 19th Jan 2002 at 15.00 hrs. This can be interpreted in two ways, both equally interesting (each negating the other but it must be one or the other).

1. as a closed and breathing cave with a volume estimate of 49 700m3 +_20%. This can be added on to the >268 000 m3 making a total estimate of 317 700m3

2. the lower entrance to an open cave. The air temperature on the moor was around freezing point and cave temperature 9.6oC. The location of the upper entrance would have to be higher than that of the Pothole. Following John Wilcock's dowsing trace in this direction leads to Pwll Byffre!

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Air movement - Pwll Pindar boulder choke. - Toby Clark.

On Friday 17 Jan 2003 at about 1600hrs, Dave Farey and I estimated by watching smoke that there was an updraught significantly faster than natural convection from a smouldering candle. The measurement was taken at the entrance to the rift which was then blasted to gain 3m of new passage going down back into the boulder choke. The gap was about 20cm wide and 50cm long (difficult to squeeze through). A reasonable estimate of the updraught velocity is 5cm/s.

On this basis the volume flowing is 20cm x 50cm x 5 cm/s = 5000cm3/s = 5 litres/s

Barometric data from Teddington showed a steady pressure drop from 1027mb to 1009.4mb during 29.5 hours (from Thursday 16 @ 1200hrs to Fri 17 @ 1730hrs) and outdraughting observed is consistent with this even given the distance away from Teddington - it is likely that pressure changes will be earlier in S Wales, but the observation remains nonetheless 'in frame'.

It was noted on Saturday afternoon 17 Jan that the air was cool and clear with 5 persons at the site, implying a good airflow at that time. A similar pattern was observed with a pressure drop from 1013.9mb to 993.9 during 25.3 hours (from Sat 18 @ 0700 to Sun 19 @ 0830hrs hours).

Using Friday's estimates:

5litres/s x 60s x 60minutes = 18 000 litres = 18m3 per hour
18m3 x 29.3 hrs = 527.4m3

Theoretical cave volume can be derived from the equation (applying Boyle's Law):

V = P (average) x volume of air / pressure change

V = (1027+ 1009.4/2)mb x 527.4m3 / (1027 - 1009.4)mb

V = 1018.2mb x 527.4m3 / 17.6mb

V = 30, 500m3

An assumption is that the comparable airflow through the head of the 8m pitch also comes from beyond the boulder choke simply because there is nowhere else it could arise from. This volume has previously been estimated at 45 800m3 (air movement in caves - WSG n/l 1992), thus the combined volumes suggest a cave of 76 300m3, well worth digging for!

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Last Gasp

Hello... It is nice to see photos of Evelio Balado again several years after my exile. We (Evelio Balado, Rafael Lavandero, Carlos Galceran and me) discovered the cave system years ago and explored the underground river and main passages. I am very happy to know that he has been able to continue the exploration and study of this very interesting Karst. Good luck to you all. Gabriel Barcelo

Writing for the Newsletter or Bulletin is simple - Just write down what you've been up to lately - in any format, then send it to me! Cheers, Graham.

Copy deadline for the next issue is 4th July 2003. Thanks to this edition's contributors: Jerry Complin, Toby Clark, Miss Payne, Martin McGowan, Steve Weston, Fumpa. Your name should be here!

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WESTMINSTER SPELEOLOGICAL GROUP: NEW ADDITIONS TO THE LIBRARY.
(between 01/01/03 - 24/04/03)

Domestic Publications:
BCRA Members Newsletter January 2003
Cave & Karst Science Vol.29 No.2 2002
Chelsea Speleological Society Newsletter Vol.45 No.1 January 2003, Vol.45 No.2 February 2003,
Vol.45 No.3 March 2003, Vol.45 No.4 April 2003
Craven Pothole Club "Record" No.69 January 2003, No.70 April 2003
Descent No.170 February/March 2003 , No.171 April/May 2003
Speleology Issue 1 January 2003 (BCRA "Caves & Caving" Replacement)
University of Bristol Speleological Society "Proceedings" Vol.22 No.3 2002
Wealden Cave & Mine Society "News of the Weald" Issue 48 February 2003
Wessex Cave Club Journal Vol.27 No. No.283 February 2003, Vol.27 No.284 April 2003
White Rose Pothole Club Newsletter Vol.21 No.4 December 2002, Vol. 22 Issue 1 March 2003
WSG Newsletter No. 2003/1 January 2003

Foreign Publications:
Assocation for Mexican Cave Studies Bulletin no.10 "Caves of the Golondrinas area"
Huntsville Grotto Newsletter Vol.45 no. 1 January 2003 (USA)
O Carste Vol.14 No.4 Outubro 2002 (Serra do Ramalho Expedicão Bahia 2001) (Brazil)
"Regards" Bulletin d'information bimestriel de la société de la Spéléologie de Wallonie,
No.46 Janvier-Fevrier 2003 (Belgium), No.47 Fevrier -Mars 2003
Speleo Club des Ardennes Bulletin No.25 2003 (France)

Book purchases:
The Caves & mines of the Sychryd Gorge - Keith Jones (1992 Edition)

Books donated by Steve Sopp (exWSG member):
American Caves & Caving - W.R. Halliday 1974
The Longest Cave - Brucker & Watson 1976
British Caves & Potholes- Deakin & Gill 1975
Postojna - Dr. France Habe 1976
Prussiking - R. Thrun 1977
Cave Exploration in Cananda - (The Canadian Caver Magazine Special Edition) 1976
Atlas des Grottes de Belgique - R.Delbrouk c.early 1970's
Manual of caving techniques CRG 1969 (which actually has inside it stamped "WSG" library!!! So, nice to have it back-it's only been borrowed for the past 2- years !…how much should the fine be…..)

Tony Oldham donations:

Federación argentina de espeleología: Argentina Subterránea:
Año 1 - Nro.1 - Septiembre de 2001 (Photocopy)
Año 2 - Nro.2 - Febrero de 2002 (Photocopy)
Año 2 - Nro.3 - Junio de 2002 (Photocopy)
Año 2 - Nro.4 - Octubre-Noviembre 2002 (Photocopy)

Landesvereines für höhlenkunde salzburg (Austria): Mitteilungen "Atlantis":
Jahrgang 23 Heft 3/4 2001, Jahrgang 24 Heft 1/2 2002

Australian Caver No.155 Spring 2001
The Western Caver-journal of the Western Austraian Speleological Group Inc. Vol.41, 2001
New Zealand Speleological Society Bulletin Vol.10 No.188-192

BCRA: "Record" Speleo-History Group Journal: No.7 spring 2001, No.8 Summer 2002
BCRA Speleo-History group "Newsletter no.10 November 2001, No.11 August 2002

Cwmbran Caving Club Journal:Vol. 1 December 1967, Vol.6 August 1970,
Vol.10 No.2 December 1981

Societe Suiss de Speleologie section Neuchâteloise No.1 2001, No.2 2002 (Switzerland)
Karaitza Numero 10 2001 (unión de espeleólogos vascos / euskal espeleologoen elkargoa /

Tony Oldham donations continued:

Union de speleologues basques) (Spain)

Akiyoshi-Dai Museum of Natural History, Bulletin - No.36 March 2001, No.37 March 2002 (Japan)

Northern Boggarts:Newsletter:No.200 21st December 2001,No.201 21st March 2002, No.202 29th August 2002

Underground-Newsletter No.55 Autumn 2002 of the Speleological Union of Ireland & Irish Cave Rescue Associaton.

Sveriges Speleolog - "Forbund":: Organ "Grottan" (Sweden)
No.3 Årgång 36 Oktober 2001, No.4 Årgång 36 December2001, No.1 Årgång 37 Mars 2002
No.2 Årgång 37 Juni 2002, No.3 Årgång 17 Oktober 2002

Gruppo speleologico piemontese c.a.i.-uget: Anno 43 n.136 luglio - dicembre 2001 (Italy)

Soci del circolo speleologico e idrologico friulano: Rivista semestrale - "Mondo Sotterraneo",
nuova serie anno XXIII n.1-2 -april-ottobre 1999 (Italy)

Club alpino italiano (sezione di trieste0 : commissione grotte "eugene boegan": Atti E Memorie - Volume XXIV 1985 (Italy)

Société spéléologique de namur: Bulletin annuel 2000 (Belgian)

"Speleo Nederland": 17e jaargang No. 1-2 november 2002 (Netherlands)

Speleo Club du Liban - a guide that is a beneft to the public (Lebanon)

The underground postoffices in Postojna Jama, Slovenia 1899-1945 T.Shaw & A. Cuk

Laichinger höhlenfreund: 37 Jahrgang Heft 2/2002 (Germany)

Der Höhlenforscher (Mitteilungsblatt der HöhlenForscherrGruppe Dresden):
33 Jahrgang Heft 1 2001, 33 Jahrgang Heft 2 2001,33 Jahrgang Heft 3 2001,34 Jahrgang Heft 1 2002

Retrospect (Archaelogical & Local History Notes & News from Somerset)

Speleophilately International No.64 January 2002, No.66 November 2002

Speleo-Club De Paris (club alpin francais d'lle-de-france) "grottes & gouffres":
-No.155 Juin 2000, No.156 Décembre 2000, No.157 Décembre 2001

Union Internationale Des Spleleologie: Commission on Volcanic Caves: Newsletter:
- No.33 November/December 2001, No.36 June 2002,

Verbandes der deutschen höhlen~und karstforscher e.v. (munchen):
"Mitteilungen": Jahrgang 48 Nr.2 2002 (2.Quartal) No.37 October 2002

Verein Fur Höhlenkunde In Munchen E.V.:"der schlaz":
no.93 Marz 2001, No.94 juli 2001, No.95 November 2001

Höhlenforschergruppe Rhein-Main E.V. Jahresbericht: Jarhgang 21 2000

Wells Natural History & Archaeological Society Millenium 2000 / 1 Report
USA stuff:
Nittany Grotto News:
Vol.48 No.1 January 2003, Vol.48 No.3 April 2002, Vol.48 No.48 No.4 September 2002
The Windy City Speleo News)
Vol. 42 no.1 February 2001, Vol.42 No.4 August 2002, Vol.42 No.5 October 2002, Vol.42 No.6 December 2002
Wittenberg University Speleological Society :
"Pholeos": Vol.19 No's 1 & 2 May 2001, Vol.20 No's 1 & 2 March 2002
NSS News:
Vol.60 no.8 August 2002, Vol.60 No.9 September 2002, Vol.60 No.10 October 2002,
Vol.60 no.11 November 2002, Vol.60 No.12 December 2002

Matthew Setchfield (Librarian)

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Full Text of 'World's Deepest Cave' Article.....Translated from the original French Article.

The World's deepest cave is once again in France!
A team of four Lyons and Marseilles speleologists beat Sunday the record of the world of depth in the pit of Mirolda, on the commune of Samoëns (Haute-Savoie), while being inserted to 1,733 m below the entry of the pit, indicated Thursday the French Federation of speleology. The preceding record had been carried out in January 2001 in Georgie, in the solid mass of Arabika, where speleologists had been inserted to 1.710 m under the ground. The speleologists, two Lyoneses, the head of forwarding Daniel Colliard and Carlos Placido, and two Marseillais, Pascal Bourdarie and the plunger Michel Philips, launched out in the adventure as soon as they learned that the weather announced a cold wave for all the week. This type of time limits the risks of sudden rise of water. Michel Philips, who plunged and crossed the siphon allowing to establish this new record, declared: "there is some extase to know that one went where nobody never went, but there is also stress bus in the event of accident, the deadlines to be evacuated can be very significant". In the same pit whose entry is located at 1.880 m of altitude, Daniel Colliard, had already established a record of the world in January 1998 while going down to the dimension (- 1610 m) before being dispossessed of the record by forwarding of Georgia. "One suspected that one could go down low, because there was a siphon which seemed promising" explained Daniel Colliard. Still low "In 2000, the weather was warm and we could go down from the material, which we left in bottom, but we did not have enough time to explore. In 2001, I had problems of health. As soon as I learned that it had a favorable window weather, I called all my friends.
Tuesday January 7 we gathered the material and went on the spot. Wednesday, one released snow at the entry of the pit or we entered Thursday to 8h30. We had 8 bags of material whose heating hammock ", indicates the head of forwarding. "The weather was very cold and very wet. It is an alpine pit, very physical, with a complex network because one loses the rivers and then they are found "additions Mr. Colliard. The group arrived Saturday at the siphon of - 1.610 m which was cleared. Then the plunger launched out with a wire of ARIANE in the siphon, which measured between 10 and 15 m, then emerged in a soft inclined gallery, then in another more sloping gallery where Michel Philips reached the dimension record of - 1.733 m. "I think that one can go down even low, towards - 1.800 Mr. One is in galleries dug with miocene, before the quaternary age, far from the circulation of water of the solid mass" concludes Daniel Colliard. 17/1/2003 - source: AFP

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